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by Aubrey Gordon & Michael Hobbes
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- Sep 21, 20261h 20m
RFK Jr.'s Buckwild Belief That HIV Doesn't Cause AIDS
The rise, fall and rise of the most nonsensical conspiracy theory we've ever heard. Thanks to Gregg Gonsalves for helping us fact-check this episode! Support us: Hear bonus episodes on PatreonWatch Aubrey's documentaryBuy Aubrey's bookListen to Mike's other podcastGet Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and more Links! Denying AIDS: Conspiracy Theories and Pseudoscience in a Post-COVID WorldImpure Science: AIDS, Activism, and the Politics of KnowledgeThe Duesberg PhenomenonAIDS Denial...
- Jul 27, 20261h 13m
Why Don't We Have a Surgeon General?
We’re nearly halfway through Trump's second term and we still don’t have a Surgeon General. What gives? Support us: Hear bonus episodes on PatreonWatch Aubrey's documentaryBuy Aubrey's bookListen to Mike's other podcastGet Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and more Links! White House withdraws nomination of Janette NesheiwatTrump’s Surgeon General Pick Distorted Key Parts of Her Résumé Dr. Janette Nesheiwat takes role at Walter Reed treating Havana SyndromeWhen Did RFK Jr Start List...
- Jun 10, 202653 min
Salt
In the 1980s, a low-sodium diet was seen as the gold standard for healthy behavior. In 2026, salt has been repackaged as “electrolytes” and is now cast as a core component of wellness. How did we get here? Also, an important correction: One pound of butter to one pound of potatoes is Joel Robuchon’s recipe. Support us: Hear bonus episodes on PatreonWatch Aubrey's documentaryBuy Aubrey's bookListen to Mike's other podcastGet Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and moreLinks! The 25 Saltiest R...
- Apr 16, 20261h 8m
Tim Ferriss’s "The 4-Hour Body" (feat. Peter Shamshiri)
We're joined by Mike's If Books Could Kill co-host to revisit a biohacking diet book for the boys. Support us: Hear bonus episodes on PatreonWatch Aubrey's documentaryBuy Aubrey's bookListen to Mike's other podcastGet Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and moreLinks! The 4-Hour BodyDoes Glycemic Index Matter for Weight Loss? An Examination of the Evidence New! Improved! Shape Up Your Life! The 4-Hour Body: The Real App You Are Working On Is An App Called YourselfThanks to Doctor ...
- Apr 1, 20261h 7m
Russell Brand Part 2
What do you do when you've flamed out as a Hollywood actor, a political commentator and a wellness guru? You make a YouTube channel. Support us: Hear bonus episodes on Patreon Watch Aubrey's documentary Buy Aubrey's book Listen to Mike's other podcast Get Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and more Links! Russell Brand accused of rape, sexual assaults and abuse Exposing Russell Brand Russell Brand And The Conspiracy Grift Russell Brand on revolution Celebrity Capital in the Political Field: Russell Brand’s migration from stand-up comedy to Newsnight “Arthur” lawsuit against Brand BBC says it received five complaints about presenter Woman says star exposed himself to her Russell Brand, Seriously How the U.S. is sabotaging its best tools to prevent deaths in the opioid epidemic Russell Brand And The Conspiracy Grift Russell Brand’s fellow travellers should defend their claims in court Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song! Support the show
- Mar 17, 20261h 14m
Russell Brand Part 1
Tracing the left-to-right political trajectory of the unfunniest man in British comedy. Support us: Hear bonus episodes on Patreon Watch Aubrey's documentary Buy Aubrey's book Listen to Mike's other podcast Get Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and more Links! Russell Brand accused of rape, sexual assaults and abuse Exposing Russell Brand Russell Brand And The Conspiracy Grift Russell Brand on revolution Celebrity Capital in the Political Field: Russell Brand’s migration from stand-up comedy to Newsnight “Arthur” lawsuit against Brand BBC says it received five complaints about presenter Woman says star exposed himself to her Russell Brand, Seriously How the U.S. is sabotaging its best tools to prevent deaths in the opioid epidemic Russell Brand And The Conspiracy Grift Russell Brand’s fellow travellers should defend their claims in court Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song! Support the show
- Feb 12, 202657 min
The Diet Crimes of Metabolife
The rags-to-riches tale of how an illegal methamphetamine manufacturer became a legal methamphetamine manufacturer. Support us: Hear bonus episodes on Patreon Watch Aubrey's documentary Buy Aubrey's book Listen to Mike's other podcast Get Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and more Links! How the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 Weakened the FDA Mad About Metabolife Stimulant Propels Diet Empire The dangers of the herb ephedra - Harvard Health An Historical Review of Steps and Missteps in the Discovery of Anti-Obesity Drugs Weight Loss the Herbal Way: No All-Natural Silver Bullet Over-the-Counter-Strategy - The Washington Post Anxious Pill-Maker Puts ABC Interview on the Web A 'Neutral' Comment, a Company's Tough Reaction Metabolife Intern., Inc. v. Wornick (S.D. Cal. 1999) Ephedra hearings in the US House of Representatives Expert Panel Finds Flaws In Diet Pill Safety Study Letter Urging a Criminal Investigation of Metabolife - Public Citizen Perspective; Regulation of Dietary Drugs Is Long Overdue No Limit, for Now, on a Dieting Supplement U.S. Bans Dietary Supplement Linked to Number of Deaths Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song! Support the show
- Nov 13, 20251h 5m
Raw Milk
Once widely banned, raw milk consumption is on the rise and states are repealing their bans. No one’s happier about that than the far right. How did we get here? NOTE: In the retelling of Pasteur’s early pasteurization, Aubrey misspoke! The culprit wasn’t lactic yeast, it was lactic acid bacteria. Sorry for the slip up! Support us: Hear bonus episodes on Patreon Watch Aubrey's documentary Buy Aubrey's book Listen to Mike's other podcast Get Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and more Links! Milk!: A 10,000 Year Food Fracas U.S. Consumer survey The Effects of Pasteurization on Vitamins Lingering Heat over Pasteurized Milk How pasteurization improves safety Swill-Milk and Infant Mortality Alta Dena (Court case 1, Court case 2, Alta Dena's raw milk history) A Raw Milk Magnate Has Spent Years Fighting Public Health Agencies Should This Milk Be Legal? The Amish farmer who ignited outrage over raw milk Why Are People Promoting Raw Milk? The Quest for Raw Milk Some Raw Truths About Raw Milk Right Wing Commentators Are Pushing Misinformation How Raw Milk Went From Hippie to MAGA Here's why raw milk drinkers need to be concerned about bird flu Influencers promote raw milk Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song! Support the show
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