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Can we learn to make smarter choices? Listen in as host Katy Milkman--behavioral scientist, Wharton professor, and author of How to Change--shares stories of high-stakes decisions and what research reveals they can teach us. Choiceology explores the lessons of behavioral economics to help you improve your judgment and change for good. Season 1 of Choiceology was hosted by Dan Heath, bestselling author of Made to Stick and Switch.
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- 1 weeks ago33 min
The Invisible Rules of Time: Language and Behavior (With Keith Chen)
Think about the habits that define your day-to-day life—how you manage your money, look after your health, or tackle your to-do list. You might assume they reflect your personality or upbringing. But what if they’re actually shaped by the language you speak?In this episode of Choiceology with Katy Milkman, explore how subtle linguistic shifts can change the way you make decisions—and bridge the gap between who you are today and who you want to be tomorrow.We travel to a unique cultural crossroads tucked high in the Alps of northern Italy. Marc Röggla, head of the European nonprofit Center for Autonomy Experience, shares the gripping history of South Tyrol—a region where political borders were redrawn overnight after World War I. He shares how his grandfather's generation risked their safety in secret, candlelit "catacomb schools" to keep their German mother tongue alive under fascist oppression—setting the stage for a surprising study on how children in the exact same region process time and temptation today. Then, Katy speaks with UCLA behavioral economist Keith Chen about his foundational research demonstrating how "future-less" languages (like German or Mandarin) can erase the mental distance between now and later. They discuss how these tiny quirks in grammar alter decisions around saving, smoking, and exercise—and how you can trick your brain into better choices, no matter what language you speak.Choiceology is an original podcast from Charles Schwab. For more on the show, visit schwab.com/choiceology.If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts.Important DisclosuresThis material is intended for general informational and educational purposes only. This should not be considered an individualized recommendation or personalized investment advice.The comments, views, and opinions expressed in the presentation are those of the speakers and do not necessarily represent the views of Charles Schwab.Data contained herein from third party providers is obtained from what are considered reliable sources. However, its accuracy, completeness or reliability cannot be guaranteed.All corporate names and market data shown above are for illustrative purposes only and are not a recommendation, offer to sell, or a solicitation of an offer to buy any security.Past performance is no guarantee of future results.Investing involves risk including loss of principal.The book How to Change: The Science of Getting from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be is not affiliated with, sponsored by, or endorsed by Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. (CS&Co.). Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. (CS&Co.) has not reviewed the books and makes no representations about their content.1026-LEXV Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
- 3 weeks ago32 min
Better Off Later: Our Preference for Improving Sequences (With George Loewenstein)
Across all kinds of decisions—from our salaries to our weekend plans—we tend to prefer options that progressively get better, if given the choice. Why is it that our minds place such a high premium on an upward trajectory?In this episode of Choiceology with Katy Milkman, we look at why we're drawn to experiences that appear to improve over time.Katy speaks with Jerald Podair, Robert S. French Professor of American Studies, Emeritus, at Lawrence University and author of The Strike That Changed New York. They revisit the historic 1960 New York City public school teachers' strike where educators put their careers on the line to trade short-term perks and principal favoritism for a contract that guaranteed a predictable, upward-climbing pay scale for everyone.Then, Katy is joined by George Loewenstein, Herbert A. Simon University Professor of Economics and Psychology at Carnegie Mellon University and author of the new book The Opposite of Happiness: How Bad Feelings Make and Break Us. They discuss his seminal research on why we prefer rising salaries, the emotional toll of anticipation and dread, and how a simple change in order of events can flip our decisions.Choiceology is an original podcast from Charles Schwab. For more on the show, visit schwab.com/choiceology.If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts.Important DisclosuresThis material is intended for general informational and educational purposes only. This should not be considered an individualized recommendation or personalized investment advice.The comments, views, and opinions expressed in the presentation are those of the speakers and do not necessarily represent the views of Charles Schwab.Data contained herein from third party providers is obtained from what are considered reliable sources. However, its accuracy, completeness or reliability cannot be guaranteed.All corporate names and market data shown above are for illustrative purposes only and are not a recommendation, offer to sell, or a solicitation of an offer to buy any security.Past performance is no guarantee of future results.Investing involves risk including loss of principal.The books How to Change: The Science of Getting from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be, The Strike That Changed New York, and The Opposite of Happiness: How Bad Feelings Make and Break Us are not affiliated with, sponsored by, or endorsed by Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. (CS&Co.). Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. (CS&Co.) has not reviewed the books and makes no representations about their content.(1026-FK1Y) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
- Sep 21, 202631 min
The Disclosure Dilemma: Oversharing (With Leslie John)
We've been taught that oversharing is a major social sin. We cringe at the thought of unloading emotional baggage on a stranger or admitting a flaw to our boss. So most of us default to silence. But what if not sharing is the bigger mistake? In this episode of Choiceology with Katy Milkman, we look at some of the surprising costs of keeping quiet, why we misjudge the risks of revealing our true selves, and how opening up—even about our flaws—can make us more trusted, influential, and connected.Katy speaks with Leslie John, the James. E. Burke Professor of Business Administration at Harvard Business School and the author of the new book Revealing: The Underrated Power of Oversharing. They delve into Leslie's lived experience of navigating a deeply personal family silence and the profound, transformative conversation that unfolded when she finally chose to open up. Then, Katy and Leslie discuss the science behind disclosure, why we are often more vulnerable to online scams than we realize, and what happens to our relationships when we choose to reveal a little more.Choiceology is an original podcast from Charles Schwab. For more on the show, visit schwab.com/choiceology.If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts.Important DisclosuresThe comments, views, and opinions expressed in the presentation are those of the speakers and do not necessarily represent the views of Charles Schwab.Data contained herein from third party providers is obtained from what are considered reliable sources. However, its accuracy, completeness or reliability cannot be guaranteed.All corporate names and market data shown above are for illustrative purposes only and are not a recommendation, offer to sell, or a solicitation of an offer to buy any security.Past performance is no guarantee of future results.Investing involves risk including loss of principal.The books How to Change: The Science of Getting from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be, Mindwise: How We Understand What Others Think, Believe, Feel, and Want, A Little More Social: How Small Choices Create Unexpected Happiness, Health, and Connection, and Revealing: The Underrated Power of Oversharing are not affiliated with, sponsored by, or endorsed by Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. (CS&Co.). Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. (CS&Co.) has not reviewed the books and makes no representations about their content.0926-897X Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
- Sep 7, 202634 min
The Commuter's Paradox: Why We Misjudge Social Connection (With Nick Epley)
Are your instincts talking you out of your own happiness? Every day, we make split-second decisions to avoid the people around us. We put in our earbuds on the train, stare at our phones, and assume the stranger next to us prefers to be left alone. Our brain tells us that reaching out will be awkward or intrusive. But what if those instincts are wrong?In this episode of Choiceology with Katy Milkman, we look at the barriers we build between ourselves and the rest of the world, why we might misjudge the social value of a simple conversation, and how connecting more can make us happier and wiser.Katy speaks with Nick Epley, a professor of behavioral science at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business and the author of the new book A Little More Social: How Small Choices Create Unexpected Happiness, Health, and Connection. They delve into Nick's lived experience of embracing social connection during a difficult moment in his family's life and the joyful, permanent difference it made. Then, Katy and Nick discuss the science behind our social fears and what happens when we choose not to follow our instincts.Choiceology is an original podcast from Charles Schwab. For more on the show, visit schwab.com/choiceology.If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts.Important DisclosuresThe comments, views, and opinions expressed in the presentation are those of the speakers and do not necessarily represent the views of Charles Schwab.Data contained herein from third party providers is obtained from what are considered reliable sources. However, its accuracy, completeness or reliability cannot be guaranteed.All corporate names and market data shown above are for illustrative purposes only and are not a recommendation, offer to sell, or a solicitation of an offer to buy any security.Past performance is no guarantee of future results.Investing involves risk including loss of principal.The books How to Change: The Science of Getting from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be, Mindwise: How We Understand What Others Think, Believe, Feel, and Want, A Little More Social: How Small Choices Create Unexpected Happiness, Health, and Connection, and Revealing: The Underrated Power of Oversharing are not affiliated with, sponsored by, or endorsed by Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. (CS&Co.). Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. (CS&Co.) has not reviewed the books and makes no representations about its content.0926-1WR3 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
- Aug 24, 202637 min
The Hardest Promises to Break: Peer Accountability (With Angela Duckworth)
How did small index cards help a high school football team pull off a legendary 151-game winning streak? And what can a 1960s Queens housewife teach us about sticking to our goals? In this episode of Choiceology with Katy Milkman, we explore why some goals are easier to achieve than others—and how the people around us can change whether we abandon a goal or follow through. Natalia Mehlman Petrzela, historian and author of Fit Nation: The Gains and Pains of America's Exercise Obsession, tells the story of Jean Nidetch. Frustrated by the isolating diet culture of the 1960s, Nidetch realized something powerful: People didn't just need better advice—they needed to stop struggling alone. What began as a small gathering of women in her living room eventually grew into Weight Watchers, one of the world's most recognizable wellness brands. Then, Katy speaks with Angela Duckworth, professor of psychology at the University of Pennsylvania and bestselling author of Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance and her new book, Situated: Find the People and Places That Bring Out Your Best. Together they explore why we're so quick to rely on willpower instead of changing our circumstances—and how making our goals visible to the right people can dramatically improve our chances of success. Choiceology is an original podcast from Charles Schwab. For more on the show, visit schwab.com/choiceology. If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts. Important Disclosures The comments, views, and opinions expressed in the presentation are those of the speakers and do not necessarily represent the views of Charles Schwab. Data contained herein from third party providers is obtained from what are considered reliable sources. However, its accuracy, completeness or reliability cannot be guaranteed. All corporate names and market data shown above are for illustrative purposes only and are not a recommendation, offer to sell, or a solicitation of an offer to buy any security. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Investing involves risk including loss of principal. The books How to Change: The Science of Getting from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be, Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance, Situated: Find the People and Places That Bring Out Your Best, and Fit Nation: The Gains and Pains of America's Exercise Obsession are not affiliated with, sponsored by, or endorsed by Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. (CS&Co.). Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. (CS&Co.) has not reviewed the books and makes no representations about its content. 0826-YTNN Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
- Aug 10, 20261 min
Coming Soon: A New Season of Choiceology
What happens to our judgment when we measure our success against others? How might the language we speak shape the way we save money and make health decisions? And why are our expectations about connecting with other people so often wrong? In the new season of Choiceology, host Katy Milkman explores the psychological forces that shape our decisions, relationships, and behavior. We'll relive a high-octane Formula 1 rivalry that threatened a championship, travel to an Alpine region where centuries of linguistic history still shape financial decisions today, and discover how much joy and insight can come from striking up a conversation with a stranger. Featuring insights from top behavioral scientists – including George Loewenstein, Angela Duckworth, Nick Epley, Keith Chen, Nir Halevy, and Leslie John—Choiceology turns cutting-edge behavioral science research into practical ideas you can use to make better decisions about money, work, relationships, and everyday life. New episodes begin in two weeks. Catch up on past episodes now, and follow the show so you never miss an episode. Choiceology is an original podcast from Charles Schwab. Important Disclosures The comments, views, and opinions expressed in the presentation are those of the speakers and do not necessarily represent the views of Charles Schwab. Data contained herein from third party providers is obtained from what are considered reliable sources. However, its accuracy, completeness or reliability cannot be guaranteed. All corporate names and market data shown above are for illustrative purposes only and are not a recommendation, offer to sell, or a solicitation of an offer to buy any security. 0826-SH2R Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
- Jun 1, 202636 min
A Depth of Trust
Teamwork is an essential part of everyday life, at work, school, and home. But what allows some teams to thrive under intense pressure while others buckle? In this episode of Choiceology with Katy Milkman, we explore how candid cultures that invite ideas from every level of an organization can be the difference between failure and a miracle. Jonathan Franklin, an award-winning journalist based in Chile, tells the remarkable story of the 2010 San José mine collapse and rescue mission. Franklin's book 33 Men: Inside the Miraculous Survival and Dramatic Rescue of the Chilean Miners details key moments of candor and collaboration—and winning ideas that came from unlikely places. Next, Katy speaks with Amy Edmondson, the Novartis Professor of Leadership and Management at the Harvard Business School. Edmondson shares her pioneering research on psychological safety and why it's so essential to build cultures that invite candor. Edmondson's foundational book on the topic, The Fearless Organization: Creating Psychological Safety in the Workplace for Learning, Innovation and Growth, has been translated into 15 languages. Choiceology is an original podcast from Charles Schwab. For more on the show, visit schwab.com/podcast. If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts. 01:10 The Organizational Failure Behind Space Shuttle Columbia 03:03 This Is Choiceology 03:38 World-Class Collaboration That Saved 33 Lives in Chile 18:21 The Power of Ideas Over Hierarchy 19:15 How to Create Cultures That Empower Teams With Amy Edmondson 34:37 The Value of Psychological Safety Everywhere Important Disclosures The comments, views, and opinions expressed in the presentation are those of the speakers and do not necessarily represent the views of Charles Schwab. Data contained herein from third party providers is obtained from what are considered reliable sources. However, its accuracy, completeness or reliability cannot be guaranteed. All corporate names and market data shown above are for illustrative purposes only and are not a recommendation, offer to sell, or a solicitation of an offer to buy any security. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Investing involves risk including loss of principal. The books How to Change: The Science of Getting from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be, 33 Men: Inside the Miraculous Survival and Dramatic Rescue of the Chilean Miners, and The Fearless Organization: Creating Psychological Safety in the Workplace for Learning, Innovation, and Growth are not affiliated with, sponsored by, or endorsed by Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. (CS&Co.). Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. (CS&Co.) has not reviewed the books and makes no representations about its content. 0626-P47L Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
- May 18, 202625 min
Death by Dashboard
From stocks to fitness to video games, real-time performance data is available everywhere these days. Seeing desirable upward trends feels amazing. But when there's a drop, it can feel like the world is ending. In this episode of Choiceology with Katy Milkman, we explore what happens when we judge performance too much in the short term. Cora Kennedy takes us inside the world of collegiate esports, where constant performance data shapes how players think and compete—including Cora herself. We also hear from Dan Ginn, who was a smartwatch devotee who checked his fitness data morning, noon, and night—until a serious illness forced him to rethink his habits. Lastly, Katy speaks with Shlomo Benartzi, professor emeritus, behavioral decision-making, at UCLA Anderson School of Management. Shlomo shares his research on why we tend to overreact to short-term losses—and how this tendency helps explain a puzzle that has long stumped economists. Choiceology is an original podcast from Charles Schwab. If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts. 00:00 Introduction 00:50 The Competitive World of Esports Stats 03:42 This Is Choiceology 04:15 Smartwatch Data Obsession Gone Awry 10:55 Checking Immediate Data Can Sabotage Long-Term Goals 11:46 The Equity Premium Puzzle and Myopic Loss Aversion With Shlomo Benartzi 23:27 Katy Milkman Reflects on Managing Myopia Important Disclosures The comments, views, and opinions expressed in the presentation are those of the speakers and do not necessarily represent the views of Charles Schwab. This material is intended for general, informational and educational purposes only. This should not be considered an individualized recommendation or personalized investment advice. Each investor needs to review an investment strategy for his or her own particular situation before making any investment decisions.> Data contained herein from third party providers is obtained from what are considered reliable sources. However, its accuracy, completeness or reliability cannot be guaranteed. All corporate names and market data shown above are for illustrative purposes only and are not a recommendation, offer to sell, or a solicitation of an offer to buy any security. The policy analysis provided by the Charles Schwab & Co., Inc., does not constitute and should not be interpreted as an endorsement of any political party. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Investing involves risk including loss of principal. Fixed income securities are subject to increased loss of principal during periods of rising interest rates. Fixed income investments are subject to various other risks including changes in credit quality, market valuations, liquidity, prepayments, early redemption, corporate events, tax ramifications, and other factors. Lower rated securities are subject to greater credit risk, default risk, and liquidity risk. There are risks associated with investing in dividend paying stocks, including but not limited to the risk that stocks may reduce or stop paying dividends. The books How to Change: The Science of Getting from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be , Save More Tomorrow and The Smarter Screen are not affiliated with, sponsored by, or endorsed by Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. (CS&Co.). Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. (CS&Co.) has not reviewed the books and makes no representations about their content. (0526-GE5U) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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