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by Invisible Bead Extensions
Welcome to the official IBE® podcast. McKenzie Turley, the founder of Invisible Bead Extensions, was the first one to introduce a beadless extension flip up to the industry. McKenzie is flipping this industry upside down with co-host Jasmine Hadjis, CEO of Invisible Bead Extensions® | Flipping The Industry podcast is a collection of conversation with the industry's most outstanding extension stylists, discussions of the best kept business strategy secrets, authentic hairstylist truths and motivational chats to help you redefine success behind the chair.
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- Aug 28, 202627 min
What IBE️ will never be
Most brands will tell you what they stand for. Fewer will tell you what they've turned down. McKenzie and Jasmine sit down to name the things IBE® has said no to — repeatedly, deliberately, and sometimes at a cost — and why those refusals are the clearest picture of what the brand actually is.This is a conversation about conviction over convenience. About what happens when you're offered an easier, faster, more profitable path and decline it because it wouldn't serve the stylist or the client on the other end of the chair.In this episode:Why IBE® teaches one method and will never add another — even with stylists actively requesting itThe pendulum between specialist and do-it-all, and why specialists consistently pull aheadThe conversations behind closed doors about offering video-only or weekend certification — and why the answer was noWhy an experienced stylist goes through the exact same step-by-step process as someone who's never picked up a needleHow the certification is built for retention, not speed, and what that intentionally costsWhy the method was designed with the client's comfort and scalp health in mind first, not the photoWhat "post-certification support" actually means at IBE® — and why the term undersells itHow membership dollars are converted directly into ad spend that drives clients to the stylist locatorThe traffic numbers behind the locator and where McKenzie wants them to go nextPermission to stop chasing what the salon down the street is doingLearn it, shop it, wear it at invisiblebeadextensions.com.
- Aug 14, 202624 min
Where Your Hair Actually Comes From
Single donor. Ethically sourced. Cuticle aligned. Double drawn. These terms get printed on packaging and repeated in captions across the entire extension industry, and most of the people saying them have never asked where they came from or whether they're true.McKenzie has. She's flown to China, sat in factories, demanded documentation for every step of the sourcing process, and softened her stance on the companies making claims they can't back up, not because the claims are accurate, but because she's realized most of them genuinely don't know either. In this episode, she and Jasmine take apart the language of hair sourcing piece by piece, and explain what actually matters for the client sitting in your chair.In this episode:Why "single donor" is real for some extension types and essentially impossible for wefts; and why that's not the problem you think it isWhat ethically sourced means when you can prove it, and why the proof stays proprietaryRemy, cuticle aligned, and cuticle intact; what each one actually describes, and what happens to hair that's been through an acid bathThe 6-to-8-week shift that reveals what you really boughtDouble drawn vs. "pre-layered": how a weft can hit the right weight and the right length claim while hiding most of its density in the top five inchesThe pricing lever any brand can pull to quietly cut costs without changing what's on the label; and why IBE® won't touch itWhy McKenzie would rather be out of stock than accept hair that isn't 100% finishedIf you sell it, you have a moral responsibility to understand it. This one's for the stylists who want to answer their clients' questions honestly.Learn it, shop it, wear it at invisiblebeadextensions.com.
- Jul 31, 202621 min
Texture is the New Color Match
What happens when a client wears her natural texture for the first time in her life — because of her extensions?McKenzie and Jasmine get into why shop IBE carries the texture range it does, and why that decision started years before the industry caught up. From early curly sourcing in 2021 to the factory samples McKenzie flat-out rejected, this is the behind-the-scenes of building a multi-textured line and the consultation shift that comes with it.They also go deep on the part most people underestimate: product. Because a seamless texture match is only half the job. The other half is teaching a client how to actually care for hair she's never worn in its natural state.In this episode:Why the industry conversation moved from "how many colors do you have?" to "what textures do you carry?", and why color can be customized in your chair, but texture can'tThe early days of sourcing curly hair, and what it took to get factories to meet IBE standardsHow the post-2020 shift toward natural hair changed what clients are asking forThe one word to remember when working with texture: moisture — and why product volume has to scale with every level of texture you addWhat's actually happening at the cuticle level, and why textured hair grabs product completely differently than flat-ironed hairThe consultation questions to ask before you choose a texture — including the one about a humid day at the parkWhy McKenzie built Goldie Locks in the first place, what surprised her about who it works for, and the truth about how IBE and Goldie relateThe strand-by-strand coiling technique from the Art of Texture course that most stylists skipWhat it really takes to bring a new texture to market the right wayYour confidence in the texture conversation is what closes the consultation. Explore the education and the full texture range at invisiblebeadextensions.com.
- Jul 17, 202647 min
An Interview With Master Educators Jenn Calloway + Raegan Abel
Two Paths, One Standard: Jenn & Raegan on Growing With IBE®What does real growth in this industry actually look like—whether you've been behind the chair for years or you're fresh out of beauty school? In this episode of Flipping the Industry, Jasmine sits down with Jenn Calloway and Raegan Abel, two IBE® Masters Technique educators who took completely different roads to the same place: a mission to help stylists get better at their craft.Jenn came in seasoned, with years of experience and past extension-brand background before finding IBE®. Raegan knew immediately after beauty school that IBE® was where she wanted to build. Different starting lines, same trajectory—both of their careers have skyrocketed, and both now pour that momentum back into the stylists coming up behind them. Recorded right after two back-to-back 10-hour days: teaching an IBE® in-person class one day, then filming a Masters troubleshooting class the next.In this episode:- Why experience level isn't the ceiling—or the excuse—it's made out to be- How Jenn translated years behind the chair into a stronger IBE® foundation into a bustling salon- What made Raegan commit to IBE® straight out of beauty school and opening a salon at 24- What it actually takes to grow from stylist to technique educator and mentor- The mindset that separates stylists who plateau from the ones who keep climbingReady to grow your technique and your career? Learn, Wear, and Shop with us at invisiblebeadextensions.com.
- Jul 3, 202623 min
An Interview with Megan King: Betting on Yourself
From Certified to Masters Educator: Megan King on Betting on YourselfMegan King didn't just get IBE® certified — she built a salon around it, turned her Instagram into an IBE®-only showcase, and earned her way to Masters Educator. In this episode of Flipping the Industry, host Jasmine sits down with Megan to talk about what it actually looks like when a stylist goes all in on the method and lets the work speak for itself.Megan gets candid about the hesitations she hears from stylists on the fence — the cost, the doubts about online education — and why none of them held up once she saw the results. Her take on IBE®'s online model reframes the objection most stylists lead with, and her story is proof of what happens when you stop overthinking and commit.In this episode:Why letting the method speak for itself beats any hard sellMegan's IBE®-only Instagram rule and how it shaped her salon's brandThe real objections stylists raise — "it's too expensive," "I don't trust online education" — and why they don't hold upHow rewatchable online education outperforms one-time, in-person classes you can't revisitMegan's journey from certified stylist to Masters Educator, and what that growth looked likeIf you're a stylist wondering whether to get certified, Megan's advice is simple: do it. And if you're already IBE® certified and eyeing Masters, open enrollment is live at the time of this episode. Learn more at invisiblebeadextensions.com.
- Jun 19, 202618 min
What Makes IBE Different
Most big extension brands are built to sell you hair. Education comes second — a one-day certification stapled onto a product catalog, five or six methods crammed into an afternoon, and silence the moment you have a question. McKenzie and Jasmine have seen it from the inside, and in this episode they say the quiet part out loud.IBE® was never built that way. McKenzie started the brand seven years ago not to move hair, but because she couldn't sleep knowing the methods she'd been taught were damaging her clients — and that education-first conviction is exactly why IBE® didn't even release a hair course until 2026, and only then because stylists demanded it. This is a candid look at what separates real mentorship from a sales funnel, and how to tell the difference before you spend your money.In this episode:Why a one-day certification is the single biggest red flag in extension education — and what genuine one-on-one mentorship should look like insteadThe hair-sales playbook bigger brands run, including pay-to-play stylist maps and celebrity influencer deals that don't actually serve youHow IBE® stayed education-first for seven years before ever teaching a course on its own hairThe questions every stylist should ask a brand before certifying — and the values to look for on the other end of the transactionFind your people, find your education, and build a career you're proud of at invisiblebeadextensions.com.
- Jun 5, 202627 min
From Certified to Masters Educator | An Interview with Nicole Fermo
Nicole Fermo is the kind of stylist every certification program hopes to attract — driven, sharp, ready to do the work. She's also moving through the IBE® education ladder at a pace that's almost unheard of: newly certified, fully booked, and became an educator in under a year.This episode is for the stylist who's been on the fence about IBE® certification — and for the stylist who's already certified and trying to figure out what's next. Jasmine sits down with Nicole for a real conversation about all of it.In this episode:Why Nicole chose IBE® over the other extension certifications she was consideringWhat the certification process actually felt like from the inside — the hard parts, the breakthroughs, the moments she questioned herselfHow Business Academy bridges the gap between newly certified and fully bookedThe mindset shift that took her from learning a method to running a business she's proud ofWhat she'd tell the stylist still sitting on the fenceLearn more, find a certified stylist near you, or start your own certification journey at www.invisiblebeadextensions.com.
- May 22, 202621 min
Are Extensions After 35 Worth It?
In this episode of Flipping the Industry, McKenzie and Jasmine talk about what it really means to wear extensions when you're a woman over 35 — navigating hormonal changes, thinning, active shedding, and the kind of hair concerns that can be painful to even talk about. McKenzie built IBE® one client at a time, and she's watched it grow into a method that meets women wherever they are, whether they want a dramatic mermaid transformation or a healthy, sustainable solution for hair that's changing.This one is for every woman who's ever struggled to find a stylist who truly gets her hair — and it's about how to find that person through the IBE® stylist locator, the bridge built to connect clients with certified IBE® stylists they can trust.In this episode:Why women over 35 dealing with hormonal or hair-loss changes need a stylist versed in their specific hair typeHow the stylist locator lets you find stylists who specialize in fine hair, active shedding, and specific concernsWhy a stylist's Instagram is one of the biggest signals to look for before you bookWhat happens when you move — and how the IBE® network keeps you taken care of nationwideWhy "find your last stylist ever" is exactly what an IBE® stylist becomesWhy you should never choose an extension artist on the transformation alone — and what healthy, sustainable hair actually requiresIf you're a client looking for invisible bead extensions, head over to the IBE® stylist locator and find your match at invisiblebeadextensions.com.
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About Flipping The Industry
Welcome to the official IBE® podcast. McKenzie Turley, the founder of Invisible Bead Extensions, was the first one to introduce a beadless extension flip up to the industry. McKenzie is flipping this industry upside down with co-host Jasmine Hadjis, CEO of Invisible Bead Extensions® | Flipping The Industry podcast is a collection of conversation with the industry's most outstanding extension stylists, discussions of the best kept business strategy secrets, authentic hairstylist truths and motivational chats to help you redefine success behind the chair.
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