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by Roy Coughlan & Catherine Llewellyn at Podfather Network
A podcast in short bursts. Each episode poses one question, and two people answer it from where they actually stand. Roy Coughlan (The Podfather) and Catherine Llewellyn (Beingspace.world) sit on different sides of most things — life experience, worldview, the way they arrive at an answer. Different Points isn't about reaching agreement. It's about hearing two honest responses to the same question, side by side, in under 10 minutes. No script, no debate to win. Just one question, two points of view, and whatever truth sits between them.
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In this episode, Roy and Catherine ask what question ends your day. Catherine has two. The practical one is what she is doing tomorrow, which she checks or sets so she knows where her focus will go. The one she asks while winding down is how she feels about her day and her life, and whether things feel right. If something doesn’t, she uses a technique she was taught years ago called dream programming. She relaxes in bed, reflects briefly, then drops a request into her subconscious, such as asking it to resolve this overnight or give her clarity for the morning, and lets it go. She often wakes up with clarity, or a sense that something has resolved itself on a deeper level during the night. Roy says he does something similar when he wants an answer, but rarely, since he is usually crashing at the end of the day. He used to write his to-do list the night before and now sometimes writes it that morning, waking up naturally early and getting things done. He sometimes reflects on whether he enjoyed his day, but most of his thinking and strategising about his businesses happens while out on a walk, not at a set time at night. Catherine adds that with clients working on a gradual shift, they sometimes agree a specific end-of-day question tied to that project, so they notice subtle changes day to day, and she has made that a discipline for herself when working on something for a period of time. Timestamps 0:02 - Welcome and today’s question: a question to end each day 0:20 - Catherine: what am I doing tomorrow, how do I feel about my day, and dream programming 2:26 - Roy: to-do lists, reflecting on his day and thinking on walks 3:29 - Catherine: project-specific questions with clients 4:25 - Closing thoughts and sign-off Roy Coughlan · The Podfather Network Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 50 Countries with 700+ Members https://connectedleaders.academy Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ Health & Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #EndOfDayQuestion #DreamProgramming #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan
In this episode, Roy and Catherine talk about what brings them joy and whether we can choose it on purpose. Roy’s joy comes from being around loved ones and being present with them. This weekend that meant cooking with his son and taking him fishing again, watching him get his hook caught in a tree and reel in seaweed, plus walks and conversations with him and phone calls with his mum. He also finds joy when people spread the word about him, like a recent case where someone in a business group told a stranger to talk to him, and it turned into a client. Catherine says a lot of things bring her joy, and often it comes from an unexpected miracle. She describes waking up to a tree outside her window full of tiny birds singing and dancing on the branches, like a tree decorated with singing ornaments. She also shares what happens when she puts a chicken carcass out on the grass: small birds arrive first, then ants, then bigger birds, and finally a bird of prey whose wingspan fills the glass door as it swoops down and takes it without touching the ground. Her other great source of joy is client sessions where someone shares something unexpected that they have done or realised, including a group who told her that the work they did on energy in organisations helped them save 2,000 redundancies. She takes no credit, but loves that the way they worked together opened something up. Roy adds that he loves watching nature outside his windows too, the foxes, pheasants, ants, the occasional hedgehog and, for the first time, a mouse darting out for scraps. Catherine closes by asking whether you can choose joy intentionally today, and do it for someone else, since other people benefit when you do. Timestamps 0:02 - Welcome and today’s topic: choosing joy intentionally 0:21 - Roy: joy in time with his son, family and friends, and people spreading the word 1:34 - Catherine: birds in the tree, the carcass on the grass and unexpected miracles with clients 5:03 - Roy: watching nature outside his windows 5:44 - Closing thoughts and sign-off Roy Coughlan · The Podfather Network Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 50 Countries with 700+ Members https://connectedleaders.academy Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ Health & Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #ChoosingJoy #Joy #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan
In this episode, Roy and Catherine ask what they’re each unlearning. Catherine starts by questioning the premise itself, wondering whether saying “I’m ready to unlearn this” is ever really true, since for her unlearning usually only becomes visible after it’s already happened rather than before. She gives two concrete examples from starting her podcast: she’d developed a slow, deliberate, slightly deeper speaking style from years of running groups and coaching, which worked in that context but put podcast listeners to sleep before the episode ended, forcing her to notice and undo it. She also had to unlearn the conversational habit of building on what someone else was saying, since solo episodes meant there was no one to respond to, and she had to find a different way of carrying a show by herself. Her conclusion is that no one really knows what they need to unlearn until they’re already in the middle of unlearning it. Roy frames his unlearning around belief systems shaped by real-world events: during Ireland’s Celtic Tiger years he believed the government was the best thing going, building roads and hospitals, only to later conclude the opposite. He describes a similar process around 2020, when he had to unlearn the belief that what was being pushed on everyone was actually good for them, piecing it together by bringing on different guests, researchers and scientists and reading extensively, even while facing pushback from people who initially disagreed with him before more of them came around. Catherine adds that she didn’t personally have to unlearn that particular belief, having been raised in a natural health environment with no vaccinations or conventional medicine, so the idea that the body is designed to heal itself was never new to her. But she watched many people around her go through that exact revelation, often as a genuine shock, since they’d been raised to believe the body left alone would simply fall apart, and she makes a point of naming how painful that specific unlearning process actually was for people, rather than pretending it’s easy. Timestamps 0:02 — Introduction and today’s question: what we’re unlearning 0:25 — Catherine: unlearning her podcast speaking style and the habit of building on a conversation partner 2:41 — Roy: unlearning belief in government and what was pushed on everyone in 2020 3:55 — Catherine: watching others unlearn that the body heals itself, and the pain of that process Roy Coughlan · The Podfather Network Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 47+ Countries with 700+ Members https://connectedleaders.academy Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ Health & Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #WhatWereUnlearning #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan
In this episode, Roy and Catherine share how they actually practice presence day to day. Roy describes his approach as having evolved over the years into appreciating the earth, the sun, and the food grown from both, staying grateful for what sustains him and paying close attention while he’s out walking, enough that he notices when he feels out of sync and knows to step back, take a break, read, or simply stop staring at a computer. He’s not attached to any particular belief system, has friends across many religions, and sees everyone as part of a shared collective regardless of what they individually believe, with presence itself being the real practice rather than any fixed ritual. Catherine agrees and adds that remembering we’re all part of the same collective, no matter our beliefs, is itself a spiritual practice, one she has to actively choose, especially since she lives and works alone much of the time and can start to feel isolated before catching herself and remembering she’s actually connected to everything and everyone. She describes a deliberately playful technique she uses: sitting and telling herself, as if it were true, that nobody likes her, nobody cares, nobody wants to talk to her, and finding that within seconds laughter bubbles up because her body already knows it’s false, which is exactly the point, the exercise snaps her back to what’s actually true rather than what she’s spiraling into. She contrasts this with wallowing in boredom, loneliness, or lack, something everyone gets stuck in sometimes, noting that even her brother used a similar discipline as a kid, cataloguing what’s wrong then deciding what to actually do next. Alongside that mental practice, she names physical daily habits that pull her back into presence: stretching and feeling grateful for having a body, yin yoga, walking, dancing, and simply watching the sunrise or sunset. Timestamps 0:02 — Introduction and today’s topic: everyday spiritual practices 0:29 — Roy: gratitude for the earth and sun, and noticing when he’s out of sync 1:56 — Catherine: the collective, the “nobody likes me” game, and daily grounding habits Roy Coughlan · The Podfather Network Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 47+ Countries with 700+ Members https://connectedleaders.academy Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ Health & Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #EverydaySpiritualPractices #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan
In this episode, Roy asks Catherine point blank: are you living your values? Catherine says she’s doing her best, and that the honest answer involves two shifting things, she feels she lives from her values more as time passes, but also notices more clearly when she doesn’t, while becoming more forgiving of herself either way. She used to treat living your values as an all-or-nothing standard, where any slip counted as failure, but now sees her own human frailty as part of the point of having a life at all, since the whole purpose of being human rather than some disembodied spirit floating in the cosmos is to practice living from values and keep discovering what they actually are. She shares a specific moment from the previous morning, waking up with a fresh, first-day-of-life feeling and suddenly recognizing a way she’d been fighting herself, pushing for something she didn’t really want or care about, and the instant she let that go, the whole day opened up differently. For her, that kind of recognition isn’t about catching a failure, it’s a small awakening, part of an ongoing, organic unfolding rather than a fixed destination, and she notes that being stretched in life is exactly what reveals how courageous you really are and how closely you’re actually following your values. Roy responds that sometimes living your values isn’t even a conscious act, other people observing you and naming what they see is often what makes you aware of it yourself, similar to the ripple effect they’ve discussed before. He also frames staying aligned with your values as something you adjust in real time when life throws a curveball, using the image of taking a wrong side street, meeting an oncoming oil tanker, and simply reversing back to the main road as his metaphor for correcting course without losing the thread of who you’re trying to be. Timestamps 0:02 — Introduction and today’s question: are you living your values 0:16 — Catherine: self-forgiveness, the morning realization, and the unfolding journey 3:11 — Roy: values others see in you, and adjusting course when life throws a curveball Roy Coughlan · The Podfather Network Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 47+ Countries with 700+ Members https://connectedleaders.academy Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ Health & Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #LivingYourValues #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan
In this episode, Roy and Catherine explore how small acts of kindness ripple outward. Roy’s approach is less about grand gestures and more about how he lives day to day, letting a car pull out from a side street, stopping at a crossing even when he doesn’t have to, and in business or community settings, always asking how he can help someone rather than how he can sell them something. He points out the ripple effect isn’t really about immediate payback, it’s that the person you helped goes on to help someone else, who helps someone else, and eventually it circles back around to benefit him anyway, even though that was never the point. Catherine builds on this with a piece of research Roy sent her, that rudeness spreads like a virus, making the person on the receiving end more likely to be rude to others for up to 24 hours, and that kindness works the same way in reverse. She illustrates it with life on the narrow country lanes near her home, where drivers who meet head-on often have to reverse a long way to let each other pass, and nearly everyone does it with waves, smiles and good humour rather than frustration. She shares a specific story of meeting a fuel tanker on one of those lanes, telling the driver she couldn’t reverse because she’s a woman, only for a passing farmer to jump in and reverse her car for her, the two of them then praising each other so warmly it felt like a scene from a TV show. She also describes a quieter form of kindness, making genuine eye contact with people who are anxious or frightened, recalling a garden centre reopening after Covid lockdown where the masked, visibly anxious staff visibly relaxed once she made a point of smiling and greeting each of them directly. Her closing point is that kindness, including kindness toward yourself, costs nothing and changes how you feel and sleep that same day. Timestamps 0:02 — Introduction and today’s topic: the ripple effect of kindness 0:25 — Roy: living it day to day and the ripple that comes back around 1:18 — Catherine: kindness as contagious, country lane courtesy, and the tanker story 5:59 — Closing thoughts and sign-off Roy Coughlan · The Podfather Network Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 47+ Countries with 700+ Members https://connectedleaders.academy Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ Health & Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #RippleEffectOfKindness #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan
In this episode, Roy and Catherine explore why community matters so much and how differently it works today. Catherine opens with a relocation agent who used to tell her they’d find a neighbourhood full of her “like-minded people,” only for Catherine to point out that her like-minded people are scattered across the world, not clustered in one place. She breaks community down into layers: simple everyday kindness, like a neighbour who says hello or stops to greet your dog, and the deeper layer of genuine colleagues and peers, like the podcasting community she and Roy both rely on. Her core point is that humans are genetically wired to need and thrive in community, but what community actually has to provide has become far more multi-layered than the old village model, where one person tended wounds and another built houses. Roy approaches it through the groups he’s deliberately built around himself: joining, then forming, his own Toastmasters group specifically with people he liked spending time with in order to overcome his fear of public speaking, and later the business communities he’s part of, the Connected Leaders Academy and his own Authority Alliance (theauthorityalliance.com). His rule is to do things with people he genuinely enjoys, not people he’s chasing money alongside, since chasing the dollar tends to put you around the wrong people, drains your energy, and eventually falls apart anyway once people stop trusting each other and start trying to get one over on each other instead of lifting each other up. Catherine ties it together with research from a guest on her other show who built a questionnaire around happiness and toured the US asking people one key question: what meaningful community are you part of where you feel you genuinely contribute and are served in return. The people who had a real answer to that question were measurably happier than those who didn’t. Timestamps 0:02 — Introduction and today’s question: the importance of community 0:18 — Catherine: finding your tribe, and the many layers community has become 2:47 — Roy: building Toastmasters and business communities around people he actually likes 4:01 — Catherine: the happiness research tied to meaningful community 4:43 — Closing thoughts and sign-off Roy Coughlan · The Podfather Network Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 47+ Countries with 700+ Members https://connectedleaders.academy Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ Health & Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #ImportanceOfCommunity #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan
In this episode, Roy and Catherine ask what wisdom actually comes with age, a question Catherine admits made her burst out laughing before they even started. Roy’s answer comes straight from his own financial history: since the losses he’s talked about before, he hasn’t touched a credit card or borrowed money, because living on assumptions (that a sale will close, that money owed will arrive) doesn’t match reality. He finds that paying with physical cash, where you watch the money actually leave your wallet, keeps you honest in a way a card, even a debit card, doesn’t. He also flags a smaller but related lesson, paying close attention to recurring charges, since companies (he mentions Podbean specifically) have tried billing him incorrectly more than once, and catching it only happens if you’re actually checking. Catherine builds on the credit card point with something she learned during lockdown, watching videos on money and the economy, that everyone born in the UK is effectively born into debt because the economy itself runs on debt, on top of whatever personal mortgages or loans people carry. She thinks this explains the UK’s distorted relationship with money, including the belief that the government “owes” people money when in reality all government money originally came from taxpayers. Since going debt-free herself, she says it’s changed her psychology and her ability to just enjoy life, and made her more aware of how much energy that invisible, background debt drains from people who’ve simply never questioned it. She then gets to what actually made her laugh at the topic: her real wisdom gained with age is realizing that almost everything we think of as wisdom is nonsense, that we understand only a tiny fraction of how life, love, psychology or the universe actually work, and that accepting this is freeing rather than discouraging, since it makes life more surprising instead of something to keep chasing answers for. She tells a story about once asking a spiritual teacher for guidance on her life, only for him to tell her that hanging her duvet over the banister for a while would really help it fluff up, a deliberately unhelpful-sounding answer she later realized was exactly right, because what she was really asking for wasn’t something anyone else could give her. Roy closes with his own version of the same idea: the more he knows, the more he realizes he doesn’t know. Timestamps 0:02 — Introduction and today’s topic: what wisdom comes with age 0:30 — Roy: the financial lesson behind never using a credit card 2:09 — Catherine: being born into debt, and the wisdom that most wisdom is nonsense 6:09 — Closing thoughts and sign-off Roy Coughlan · The Podfather Network Website: https://roycoughlan.com/ Virtual Assistants: https://va.world/ Private Networking Group: Learn about a Private Networking Group in 50 US States & 47+ Countries with 700+ Members https://connectedleaders.academy Brain Upgrade: https://brainupgrade.org/ The Authority Alliance: A Foundation of Experts — community for entrepreneurs, coaches, and thought leaders to connect, collaborate, and grow their authority together: https://theauthorityalliance.com/ EMF Protection: https://protectfromemf.org/ Health & Wellness: https://podfather.thefrequencyawakening.com/ Make the most of your calling. Book an Exploratory Call with Catherine: https://beingspace.world/#explore 🤝 Join Catherine’s Being Space Community ✦ Website: https://beingspace.world ✦ Podcast: https://truthandtranscendence.com ✦ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinellewellynbeingspace/ ✦ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BEINGSPACEcatherinellewellyn ✦ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beingspace.world/ ✦ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeingSpaceWorld #DifferentPoints #WisdomWithAge #Podcast #BeingSpace #CatherineLlewellyn #RoyCoughlan
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