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- 4 days ago1h 41m
#804: Bitcoin Is Cheap And Nobody Believes It with Matthew Mežinskis
Bitcoin is sitting near the 8th percentile of its 17-year power trend while sentiment feels like the summer of 2015. Matty Mežinskis of Porkopolis Economics walks Marty through Bitcoin priced in gold, the top five base monies, Fed balance sheet expansion echoing the 2019 repo crisis, and why stablecoins are a rounding error next to global broad money. They also cover falling costs for Bitcoin-backed lending, drone warfare, Russia's war on Ukraine, and when Bitcoin could rival central bank money. Matthew on X: https://x.com/1basemoney Porkopolis: https://www.porkopolis.io/topmoney/ The Bitcoin Playbook for Commercial Real Estate Owners & Investors: https://www.tftc.io/CRE STACK SATS hat: https://tftcmerch.io/ Our newsletter: https://www.tftc.io/bitcoin-brief/ TFTC Elite (Ad-free & Discord): https://www.tftc.io/#/portal/signup/ Discord: https://discord.gg/yHGkvYxdqT Opportunity Cost Extension: https://www.opportunitycost.app/ Shoutout to our sponsors: Block: - Cash App: For a limited time, new customers can get $21 added to their balance. Just use code TFTC10 when you sign up, and send at least $5 to a friend in the first two weeks. Terms apply. Bitcoin services by Block, Inc. See the Bitcoin disclosures at cash.app/legal/podcast. - Square: Visit http://square.com/go/tftc for up to $200 off eligible Square hardware. - Bitkey: Use code TFTC10 for 10% off the new Bitkey. Aven https://www.aven.com/bitcoin CrowdHealth https://www.joincrowdhealth.com/tftc Simple Mining https://www.simplemining.io/tftc Salt of the Earth: https://drinksote.com/tftc Join the TFTC Movement: Main YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/c/TFTC21/videos Clips YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUQcW3jxfQfEUS8kqR5pJtQ Website https://tftc.io/ Newsletter tftc.io/bitcoin-brief/ Twitter https://twitter.com/tftc21 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/tftc.io/ Nostr https://primal.net/tftc Follow Marty Bent: Twitter https://twitter.com/martybent Nostr https://primal.net/martybent Newsletter https://tftc.io/martys-bent/ Podcast https://www.tftc.io/tag/podcasts/ Disclosure: Bitcoin services are provided by Block, Inc. Bitcoin services are not licensable activity in all U.S. states and territories, and not all services are available in all states. Bitkey is not available in New York. Block, Inc. operates in New York as Block of Delaware and is licensed to engage in virtual currency business activity by the New York State Department of Financial Services. Bitcoin is a non-deposit, non-bank product that is not FDIC insured and involves risk, including monetary loss. For additional information, see the Bitcoin disclosures: https://help.cash.app/btcdisclosures Get up to $200 off Square hardware when you sign up at http://square.com/go/tftc! #squarepartner. Offer expires December 31, 2026 at 11:59 pm PST. Offer for $40 off the cost of one Square Stand, $75 off the cost of one Square Terminal, $100 off the cost of one Square Handheld, or $200 off the cost of one Square Register, excluding applicable taxes. Limited to one discount per product type per seller account. Each code is limited to one redemption per account holder. Valid for new Square customers located in the US only. Offer not valid with guest checkout. Square reserves the right to modify, revoke or cancel the offer at any time. Offer cannot be combined with any other coupon. Void where prohibited, not redeemable for cash, and non-transferable. #squarepartner #blockpartner
- 4 days ago45 min
Ten31 Timestamp: Spirit of '63
Marty and John Arnold dig into Anthropic's S-1 numbers, Meta's first negative free cash flow quarter in over a decade, and why Treasury Secretary Bessent is invoking Lincoln's National Currency Act of 1863 to sell stablecoins. 🔗 https://bitcoinproducts.com In this episode: Anthropic's S-1, revenue per dollar of compute, and Fortune 500 penetration Meta's CapEx surge, negative free cash flow, and $95B equity raise plan Why GPU rental prices keep rising while bears call the bubble Gulf oil and LNG flows back above pre-war levels The Qatar LNG deal, Henry Hub, and a possible Russia Ukraine peace deal Reshoring, China export controls, and a bifurcating world The 1863 National Currency Act, the GENIUS Act, and T-bill backed digital dollars Gold convertibility in 1879 and what it means for gold and the Bitcoin reserve TIMESTAMPS: 00:00:00 - First take on Anthropic's S-1 00:01:54 - Revenue per dollar of compute 00:02:36 - Net dollar retention and Fortune 500 penetration 00:04:05 - The new slides 00:05:02 - Meta financials and CapEx 00:06:43 - Meta's equity raise and new share class 00:07:24 - Muse launch and the stock selloff 00:08:38 - Operating cash flow versus CapEx 00:10:17 - Muse user growth versus ChatGPT 00:12:04 - GPU rental prices keep rising 00:16:35 - Gulf oil volumes above pre-war levels 00:18:48 - US LNG deal with Qatar 00:19:30 - Russia Ukraine peace talks and Nord Stream 00:21:40 - Bifurcation and the reshoring push 00:24:20 - Terafab, drug supply chains, and China export controls 00:26:22 - The 1863 parallel 00:27:51 - OCC finalizes GENIUS Act rules 00:29:58 - National bank notes versus stablecoins 00:32:12 - Sizing the digital dollar opportunity 00:34:37 - Inflation and the Fed's role 00:38:20 - The Resumption Act and gold convertibility 00:40:49 - Gold reserves and the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve 00:44:28 - MAGA slop or real strategy SUBSCRIBE › Newsletter (free): https://tftc.io/bitcoin-brief/› YouTube: https://youtube.com/@TFTC?sub_confirmation=1 FOLLOW US › X: https://x.com/tftc21› Nostr: https://primal.net/tftc FOLLOW MARTY › X: https://x.com/MartyBent › Timestamp: https://www.ten31timestamp.com/› John Arnold: https://x.com/JohnArnoldTen31› Ten31: https://ten31.xyz TFTC #MartyBent #JohnArnold #Stablecoins #AI #Energy #Bitcoin
- 1 weeks ago27 min
Ten31 Timestamp: Partly Cloudy
Black Monday never showed up. Marty and John Arnold break down why markets shrugged off the weekend scare, and what the data under the surface is saying about AI spending, interest rates, and energy. 🔗 https://bitcoinproducts.com In this episode: Why Black Monday didn't happen and what markets did instead Anthropic's slowing revenue growth and the distillation fight Neo clouds, credit stress, and the cost of capital for the AI build out Hot inflation prints, the Fed, and bond market volatility Whether Treasury cuts 20 year issuance to deal with higher yields Diesel shortages, Gulf attacks, and Iran's economy China's export surge and what Europe might do about it TIMESTAMPS: 00:00:00 - Black Monday that wasn't 00:01:20 - Anthropic revenue growth slows ahead of IPO 00:01:38 - Distillation attacks and the irony of AI IP 00:05:12 - Neo clouds and credit default swaps under pressure 00:06:55 - Cost of capital for the AI build out 00:07:02 - Hot inflation and the Fed 00:07:57 - Ten year yields near 5% and forward guidance 00:10:13 - Convexity Maven on bond volatility and the MOVE index 00:12:57 - Treasury and the 20 year issuance rumor 00:15:39 - War driving up diesel prices 00:18:36 - Carney on maximizing diesel shipments to the US 00:19:27 - Iran GDP collapse and the blockade 00:21:29 - China's 36% export surge in September 00:22:14 - Robin Brooks and Michael Pettis on overproduction 00:24:35 - Jim Himes and bipartisan support for Europe and NATO SUBSCRIBE › Newsletter (free): https://tftc.io/bitcoin-brief/› YouTube: https://youtube.com/@TFTC?sub_confirmation=1 FOLLOW US › X: https://x.com/tftc21› Nostr: https://primal.net/tftc FOLLOW MARTY › X: https://x.com/MartyBent › Timestamp: https://www.ten31timestamp.com/› John Arnold: https://x.com/JohnArnoldTen31› Ten31: https://ten31.xyz TFTC #MartyBent #JohnArnold #Markets #Inflation #AI
- 1 weeks ago1h 17m
#803: The Long End of the Curve Is Breaking with Parker Lewis
Parker Lewis of Zaprite, author of Gradually Then Suddenly, joins Marty Bent to explain why Bitcoin sentiment is at its worst while the macro setup looks stronger than ever. They cover the missing adoption wave, why Bitcoin treasury companies cannibalize demand, the 30-year Treasury at 5.5 percent, credit market stress, Silvergate and Operation Choke Point 2.0, the Coldcard and Ledger incidents, and a live demo of Zaprite Pay. Parker on X: https://x.com/parkeralewis Zaprite p2p: https://zapritep2p.com/ Gradually, Then Suddenly: https://nakamotoinstitute.org/library/gradually-then-suddenly/ The Bitcoin Playbook for Commercial Real Estate Owners & Investors: https://www.tftc.io/CRE STACK SATS hat: https://tftcmerch.io/ Our newsletter: https://www.tftc.io/bitcoin-brief/ TFTC Elite (Ad-free & Discord): https://www.tftc.io/#/portal/signup/ Discord: https://discord.gg/yHGkvYxdqT Opportunity Cost Extension: https://www.opportunitycost.app/ Shoutout to our sponsors: Block: - Cash App: For a limited time, new customers can get $21 added to their balance. Just use code TFTC10 when you sign up, and send at least $5 to a friend in the first two weeks. Terms apply. Bitcoin services by Block, Inc. See the Bitcoin disclosures at cash.app/legal/podcast. - Square: Visit http://square.com/go/tftc for up to $200 off eligible Square hardware. - Bitkey: Use code TFTC10 for 10% off the new Bitkey. Aven https://www.aven.com/bitcoin CrowdHealth https://www.joincrowdhealth.com/tftc Simple Mining https://www.simplemining.io/tftc Salt of the Earth: https://drinksote.com/tftc Join the TFTC Movement: Main YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/c/TFTC21/videos Clips YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUQcW3jxfQfEUS8kqR5pJtQ Website https://tftc.io/ Newsletter tftc.io/bitcoin-brief/ Twitter https://twitter.com/tftc21 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/tftc.io/ Nostr https://primal.net/tftc Follow Marty Bent: Twitter https://twitter.com/martybent Nostr https://primal.net/martybent Newsletter https://tftc.io/martys-bent/ Podcast https://www.tftc.io/tag/podcasts/ Disclosure: Bitcoin services are provided by Block, Inc. Bitcoin services are not licensable activity in all U.S. states and territories, and not all services are available in all states. Bitkey is not available in New York. Block, Inc. operates in New York as Block of Delaware and is licensed to engage in virtual currency business activity by the New York State Department of Financial Services. Bitcoin is a non-deposit, non-bank product that is not FDIC insured and involves risk, including monetary loss. For additional information, see the Bitcoin disclosures: https://help.cash.app/btcdisclosures Get up to $200 off Square hardware when you sign up at http://square.com/go/tftc! #squarepartner. Offer expires December 31, 2026 at 11:59 pm PST. Offer for $40 off the cost of one Square Stand, $75 off the cost of one Square Terminal, $100 off the cost of one Square Handheld, or $200 off the cost of one Square Register, excluding applicable taxes. Limited to one discount per product type per seller account. Each code is limited to one redemption per account holder. Valid for new Square customers located in the US only. Offer not valid with guest checkout. Square reserves the right to modify, revoke or cancel the offer at any time. Offer cannot be combined with any other coupon. Void where prohibited, not redeemable for cash, and non-transferable. #squarepartner #blockpartner<
- 2 weeks ago1h 25m
#802: The Banks Are Fleecing You with Mel Mattison
Mel Mattison joins Marty to unpack October's market selloff and why it may be the best buying opportunity since the Iran war drawdown. They cover rising Treasury yields, fiscal dominance, and why Kevin Warsh and the Fed can't hike without bankrupting the government. Mel explains why the AI trade isn't AI, why compute and semiconductors win regardless of which model leads, and how tokenization, stablecoins, and agentic payments threaten the banking float model. Plus Social Security, Medicare, the midterms, and ending the Iran war. Mel on X: https://x.com/MelMattison1 Mel’s Book: https://www.melmattison.com/quoz The Bitcoin Playbook for Commercial Real Estate Owners & Investors: https://www.tftc.io/CRE STACK SATS hat: https://tftcmerch.io/ Our newsletter: https://www.tftc.io/bitcoin-brief/ TFTC Elite (Ad-free & Discord): https://www.tftc.io/#/portal/signup/ Discord: https://discord.gg/yHGkvYxdqT Opportunity Cost Extension: https://www.opportunitycost.app/ Shoutout to our sponsors: Block: - Cash App: For a limited time, new customers can get $21 added to their balance. Just use code TFTC10 when you sign up, and send at least $5 to a friend in the first two weeks. Terms apply. Bitcoin services by Block, Inc. See the Bitcoin disclosures at cash.app/legal/podcast. - Square: Visit http://square.com/go/tftc for up to $200 off eligible Square hardware. - Bitkey: Use code TFTC10 for 10% off the new Bitkey. Aven https://www.aven.com/bitcoin CrowdHealth https://www.joincrowdhealth.com/tftc Simple Mining https://www.simplemining.io/tftc Salt of the Earth: https://drinksote.com/tftc Join the TFTC Movement: Main YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/c/TFTC21/videos Clips YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUQcW3jxfQfEUS8kqR5pJtQ Website https://tftc.io/ Newsletter tftc.io/bitcoin-brief/ Twitter https://twitter.com/tftc21 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/tftc.io/ Nostr https://primal.net/tftc Follow Marty Bent: Twitter https://twitter.com/martybent Nostr https://primal.net/martybent Newsletter https://tftc.io/martys-bent/ Podcast https://www.tftc.io/tag/podcasts/ Disclosure: Bitcoin services are provided by Block, Inc. Bitcoin services are not licensable activity in all U.S. states and territories, and not all services are available in all states. Bitkey is not available in New York. Block, Inc. operates in New York as Block of Delaware and is licensed to engage in virtual currency business activity by the New York State Department of Financial Services. Bitcoin is a non-deposit, non-bank product that is not FDIC insured and involves risk, including monetary loss. For additional information, see the Bitcoin disclosures: https://help.cash.app/btcdisclosures Get up to $200 off Square hardware when you sign up at http://square.com/go/tftc! #squarepartner. Offer expires December 31, 2026 at 11:59 pm PST. Offer for $40 off the cost of one Square Stand, $75 off the cost of one Square Terminal, $100 off the cost of one Square Handheld, or $200 off the cost of one Square Register, excluding applicable taxes. Limited to one discount per product type per seller account. Each code is limited to one redemption per account holder. Valid for new Square customers located in the US only. Offer not valid with guest checkout. Square reserves the right to modify, revoke or cancel the offer at any time. Offer cannot be combined with any other coupon. Void where prohibited, not redeemable for cash, and non-transferable. #squarepartner #blockpartner
- 2 weeks ago1h 1m
#801: Proving What's Real In The Age Of AI with Bryan Jacoutot
Bryan Jacoutot, commercial litigator at Clark Hill, joins Marty Bent to explain how Bitcoin timestamping through OpenTimestamps and SimpleProof can authenticate digital evidence in the age of generative AI deepfakes. They cover his proposed federal rules of evidence change, a rebuttable presumption of authenticity for hashed files, and how Screven County, Georgia hashes election results and drop box surveillance video into the Bitcoin blockchain. They also discuss FinCEN's retracted rule, the Blockchain Regulatory Certainty Act, the Bank Secrecy Act, and truth decay. Bryan on X: https://x.com/BryanJacoutot Clark Hill: https://www.clarkhill.com/people/bryan-f-jacoutot/ Simple Proof: https://www.simpleproof.com/The Bitcoin Playbook for Commercial Real Estate Owners & Investors: https://www.tftc.io/CRE STACK SATS hat: https://tftcmerch.io/ Our newsletter: https://www.tftc.io/bitcoin-brief/ TFTC Elite (Ad-free & Discord): https://www.tftc.io/#/portal/signup/ Discord: https://discord.gg/yHGkvYxdqT Opportunity Cost Extension: https://www.opportunitycost.app/ Shoutout to our sponsors: Block: Cash App: For a limited time, new customers can get $21 added to their balance. Just use code TFTC10 when you sign up, and send at least $5 to a friend in the first two weeks. Terms apply. Bitcoin services by Block, Inc. See the Bitcoin disclosures at cash.app/legal/podcast. Square: Visit http://square.com/go/tftc for up to $200 off eligible Square hardware. Bitkey: Use code TFTC10 for 10% off the new Bitkey. Aven https://www.aven.com/bitcoin CrowdHealth https://www.joincrowdhealth.com/tftc Simple Mining https://www.simplemining.io/tftc Salt of the Earth: https://drinksote.com/tftc Join the TFTC Movement: Main YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/c/TFTC21/videos Clips YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUQcW3jxfQfEUS8kqR5pJtQ Website https://tftc.io/ Newsletter tftc.io/bitcoin-brief/ Twitter https://twitter.com/tftc21 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/tftc.io/ Nostr https://primal.net/tftc Follow Marty Bent: Twitter https://twitter.com/martybent Nostr https://primal.net/martybent Newsletter https://tftc.io/martys-bent/ Podcast https://www.tftc.io/tag/podcasts/ Disclosure: Bitcoin services are provided by Block, Inc. Bitcoin services are not licensable activity in all U.S. states and territories, and not all services are available in all states. Bitkey is not available in New York. Block, Inc. operates in New York as Block of Delaware and is licensed to engage in virtual currency business activity by the New York State Department of Financial Services. Bitcoin is a non-deposit, non-bank product that is not FDIC insured and involves risk, including monetary loss. For additional information, see the Bitcoin disclosures: https://help.cash.app/btcdisclosures Get up to $200 off Square hardware when you sign up at http://square.com/go/tftc! #squarepartner. Offer expires December 31, 2026 at 11:59 pm PST. Offer for $40 off the cost of one Square Stand, $75 off the cost of one Square Terminal, $100 off the cost of one Square Handheld, or $200 off the cost of one Square Register, excluding applicable taxes. Limited to one discount per product type per seller account. Each code is limited to one redemption per account holder. Valid for new Square customers located in the US only. Offer not valid with guest checkout. Square reserves the right to modify, revoke or cancel the off
- 2 weeks ago34 min
Ten31 Timestamp: Liberty, Equality, Insolvency
France's debt problem, Europe moving against Chinese exports, Iran under pressure, and the AI and quantum FUD hitting Bitcoin. Marty and John Arnold go through the week. 🔗 https://bitcoinproducts.com In this episode: France's fiscal situation and why short-term debt issuance is spreading Europe pushes back on Chinese exports while the US pulls it closer Iran's economy under sanctions and escalation risk after the Houthi strike The Donroe Doctrine: Greenland, Iceland and Brazil's election Treasury issuance, buybacks and the narrative around US economic data OpenAI revenue numbers, AI math proofs and the quantum FUD aimed at Bitcoin TIMESTAMPS: 00:00:00 - Touching grass after a weekend of hardware wallet and AI news 00:01:00 - France's debt cycle and the Macron problem 00:02:30 - Short-term issuance and yields across Europe 00:04:58 - Europe moves to block Chinese exports 00:08:17 - Taiwan Strait naval exercises and the US-China meeting 00:09:48 - Iran's economy and the oil minister's exit 00:11:34 - Houthi strike on Saudi airport and escalation risk 00:13:41 - The Donroe Doctrine and the National Security Strategy 00:14:13 - Iceland, Greenland and Brazil's Bolsonaro surge 00:17:07 - US economic data and Treasury issuance 00:20:12 - Bessent's buybacks and the long end of the curve 00:21:26 - OpenAI's revenue run rate and the Anthropic comparison 00:23:39 - AI math proofs and the pace of model progress 00:26:36 - Quantum FUD, Justin Drake and Yehuda Lindell on elliptic curves 00:30:00 - Why Bitcoin researchers are working on new signature schemes 00:33:41 - Wrap-up and next week SUBSCRIBE › Newsletter (free): https://tftc.io/bitcoin-brief/› YouTube: https://youtube.com/@TFTC?sub_confirmation=1 FOLLOW US › X: https://x.com/tftc21› Nostr: https://primal.net/tftc FOLLOW MARTY › X: https://x.com/MartyBent › Timestamp: https://www.ten31timestamp.com/› John Arnold: https://x.com/JohnArnoldTen31› Ten31: https://ten31.xyz TFTC #MartyBent #JohnArnold #Bitcoin #QuantumComputing #AI
- 3 weeks ago1h 49m
#800: London Closed The Strait Of Hormuz with Tom Luongo
Tom Luongo returns to break down why the Iran conflict was never really about Iran. Tom argues the war is a lever to dismantle the Eurodollar system and the old colonial powers of Europe, from Lloyd's of London pulling shipping insurance to the yen carry trade unwinding. We cover Scott Bessent's Treasury buybacks, the bear flattener, France's bond market stress, Mark Carney and Canada, Judy Shelton at Treasury, the midterms, the dollar index breakout, and a provocative reframe of the claim that DARPA created Bitcoin. Tom on X: https://x.com/TFL1728 Tom's Website: https://tomluongo.me/ The Bitcoin Playbook for Commercial Real Estate Owners & Investors: https://www.tftc.io/CRE STACK SATS hat: https://tftcmerch.io/ Our newsletter: https://www.tftc.io/bitcoin-brief/ TFTC Elite (Ad-free & Discord): https://www.tftc.io/#/portal/signup/ Discord: https://discord.gg/yHGkvYxdqT Opportunity Cost Extension: https://www.opportunitycost.app/ Shoutout to our sponsors: Block: - Cash App: For a limited time, new customers can get $21 added to their balance. Just use code TFTC10 when you sign up, and send at least $5 to a friend in the first two weeks. Terms apply. Bitcoin services by Block, Inc. See the Bitcoin disclosures at cash.app/legal/podcast. - Square: Visit http://square.com/go/tftc for up to $200 off eligible Square hardware. - Bitkey: Use code TFTC10 for 10% off the new Bitkey. Aven https://www.aven.com/bitcoin CrowdHealth https://www.joincrowdhealth.com/tftc Simple Mining https://www.simplemining.io/tftc Salt of the Earth: https://drinksote.com/tftc Join the TFTC Movement: Main YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/c/TFTC21/videos Clips YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUQcW3jxfQfEUS8kqR5pJtQ Website https://tftc.io/ Newsletter tftc.io/bitcoin-brief/ Twitter https://twitter.com/tftc21 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/tftc.io/ Nostr https://primal.net/tftc Follow Marty Bent: Twitter https://twitter.com/martybent Nostr https://primal.net/martybent Newsletter https://tftc.io/martys-bent/ Podcast https://www.tftc.io/tag/podcasts/ Disclosure: Bitcoin services are provided by Block, Inc. Bitcoin services are not licensable activity in all U.S. states and territories, and not all services are available in all states. Bitkey is not available in New York. Block, Inc. operates in New York as Block of Delaware and is licensed to engage in virtual currency business activity by the New York State Department of Financial Services. Bitcoin is a non-deposit, non-bank product that is not FDIC insured and involves risk, including monetary loss. For additional information, see the Bitcoin disclosures: https://help.cash.app/btcdisclosures Get up to $200 off Square hardware when you sign up at http://square.com/go/tftc! #squarepartner. Offer expires December 31, 2026 at 11:59 pm PST. Offer for $40 off the cost of one Square Stand, $75 off the cost of one Square Terminal, $100 off the cost of one Square Handheld, or $200 off the cost of one Square Register, excluding applicable taxes. Limited to one discount per product type per seller account. Each code is limited to one redemption per account holder. Valid for new Square customers located in the US only. Offer not valid with guest checkout. Square reserves the right to modify, revoke or cancel the offer at any time. Offer cannot be combined with any other coupon. Void where prohibited, not redeemable for cash, and non-transferable. #squarepartner #blockpartner
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