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by Chloe Shih and Eric Wei
Welcome to Office Drama (formerly JOMO) - a work-culture talk show about the inner drama behind career breakthroughs. I'm Chloe Shih, a former tech product manager turned 2M+ followers creator, and I sit with people obsessed with what they do, learn about the lessons they wish they knew earlier, and reveal the drama within. We also have a monthly(ish) advice segment, Coworker Confessions, for viewers to anonymously share their work tea or situations to get a second opinion.
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- 3 weeks ago1h 26m
How Women Can Make F*ck You Wealth in 2026 ft. Jenny Park (Finance Creator & Brand Partnerships Lead)
Thank You to Our Sponsors!✹ Storyblocks: unlimited stock footage, music, and SFX for creators → https://storyblocks.com/officedrama✹ Granola: your AI notepad for meetings → https://granola.ai/officedrama✹ Hostinger: build your website with AI and get 10% off with code OFFICEDRAMA → https://hostinger.com/OFFICEDRAMAWhat does it actually look like to build wealth as a woman in 2026 ~ when you have a corporate career, a creator business, and more ways to make money than ever before?Jenny didn’t leave corporate to become a creator... she built both at the same time, made six figures from content, and still genuinely loves having a job 😭 which makes her perspective on money, ambition, and the creator economy so interesting.In this ep, we talk about:→ why Jenny became a creator→ why she still refuses to quit her corporate job→ how she made $100K as a creator with only 60K followers→ what actually makes brands want to work with you→ why women feel guilty for wanting more money→ how creators are making millions from online courses→ whether selling a course is actually a “grift”→ why white women tend to do well as influencers→ how women are making crazy money in 2026→ scarcity, competition, and representation in the Asian creator community→ why women should feel empowered to build wealth→ Find Jenny on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mohae.jennypark/→ Find Jenny on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mohaewithjennypark→ Find Jenny on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferkimpark/Submit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsIf you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment! 🫶 It's free~𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shihOD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.podtiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDrama✹ business inquiries: business@colorsofchloe.com#officedrama #officedramapodcastSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
- Oct 8, 20261h 19m
The Hottest Product Manager in Tech Right Now 🔥 OpenAI’s Holly Li Talks About Dots | Office Drama
How do you go from a self-described “nobody PM” to becoming one of the most talked-about product managers in Silicon Valley?Holly Li’s career is kind of insane. She started at Google, bought a one-way ticket to San Francisco and convinced the team at Adept to create a PM role for her, became the founding PM of Figma Make, and is now building at OpenAI, where she famously launched Dots at OpenAI’s Dev Day.In this ep, we talk about:→ how Holly became one of the hottest PMs in tech→ how she landed PM roles in AI→ how she became the founding PM of Figma Make just weeks after joining→ what the OpenAI interview process is actually like→ what most candidates get wrong in interviews→ what happened at her live demo during OpenAI Dev Day→ how to become a better presenter on stage→ why AI needs more women, creative people, and people with taste→ what is Dots?→ how Dots differentiates itself in the current “AI assistant race”→ Find Holly on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/hollyli2018Submit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsIf you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment! 🫶 It’s free~𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎🌸 instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shihOD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.podtiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDrama✹ business inquiries: business@colorsofchloe.com#officedrama #officedramapodcastSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
- Oct 5, 20261h 31m
The Human Cost of Convenience | Ex-VP @Yahoo! Srinija Srinivasan
We’ve spent decades making everything faster, easier, and more convenient, but what if we optimized away some of the things that actually make us human?Srinija Srinivasan is basically a founding mother of the internet. She was employee #5 at Yahoo, spent 15 years there as Editor-in-Chief and VP, helped shape how the early internet was organized, chaired the board of SFJAZZ, served on Stanford’s Board of Trustees, and later co-founded Loove, bringing technology and the arts together. And now, she’s building an entirely new kind of college.In this ep, we talk about:→ what it was really like helping build Yahoo! in the early internet→ what makes the best business partnerships actually work→ why imagination, creativity, and curiosity matter even more in the age of AI→ why art is so hard to make money from→ the human cost of optimizing everything for efficiency→ why convenience might be the wrong North Star for technology→ how we can build technology that makes us more humanSubmit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsIf you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment! 🫶 It's free~𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎🌸 instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shihOD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.podtiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDrama✹ business inquiries: business@colorsofchloe.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
- Sep 21, 20261h 13m
30 Years of Career Advice in 1 Hour | Deb Liu (CEO @Ancestry.com, VP of Product @Meta)
okay I need you to understand that this episode genuinely changed me 🥹✨Deb Liu is one of the most decorated women in tech. She spent 12 years at Facebook where she founded Facebook Marketplace, rose to VP, and then became CEO of Ancestry.com. She has 4 million+ views on her Substack, she's a board member of Poshmark and Intuit. She is simply built different!In this episode we get into:→ how Facebook Marketplace launched and immediately got a New York Times headline about drugs, guns, and baby hedgehogs 💀→ the invisible rules of power and influence that nobody tells you before you walk into a room→ if work feels misaligned you might just need to be repotted 🪴→ how to hold high standards as a leader without traumatizing everyone around you→ when to persist, pivot, or quit (and why quitting is actually the first chapter of her new book)→ why ambition without joy becomes brittlethis is the episode I have been wanting to make since I started Office Drama. Deb is one of those people who has an answer for every question because she has genuinely lived and reflected on such a variety of experiences in her life. This episode is true hopecore and Deb somehow makes you feel like everything is going to be okay 🥺➔ Deb's Substack:https://debliu.substack.com➔ Deb on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborahliu➔ Deb on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/debliu_Submit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsif you enjoyed this episode please follow, rate 5 stars ⭐️ and drop a comment — it helps more people find the show and means everything to us 🥹𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎🌸 instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shihOD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.podtiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDramaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
- Sep 7, 20261h 9m
The Secret to Being “Likable” at Work | Sr. PM @ Netflix, Ellie Rui | Office Drama
Thank You to Our Sponsor!✹ Granola: your AI notepad for meetings → https://granola.ai/officedramaEllie Rui got promoted every single year of her career. Six years at Microsoft, from new grad PM to Principal, and now she's a beloved senior PM at Netflix. Her answer for how is simpler than you’d think: hard work doesn't paint the full picture. We get into what actually drives fast career growth, how one great manager changed the trajectory of her entire career, and how the PM landscape is changing faster than ever.In this ep, we talk about:→ how she got promoted every single year for six years→ what a great manager actually does for your career→ what separates junior, senior, and principal PMs→ whether AI will actually replace PMs→ why new grads should pick startups over big tech right now→ and how to be likeable at work!→ Find Ellie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ellierui/Submit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsIf you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment! 🫶 It's free~𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎🌸 instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/OD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.pod/tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDrama✹ business inquiries: business@colorsofchloe.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
- Sep 2, 20261h 3m
We need to talk about the AI Brand trip situation... ft. Megan Lieu | Office Drama
Creators got CANCELED for attending an AI brand trip...and we're finally addressing it. 🫣Today, I have the privilege of hosting Megan Lieu (data science + tech creator) on Office Drama to uncover what really went down on that trip and what it was actually like as a creator "getting canceled".I've worked professionally in Trust & Safety. I'm passionate about tech ethics, creator industries, and how we all should work together. And I really hope we can actually have constructive conversations on this platform that may push cultural, product, and policy changes for the better.It's very daunting as a female creator to address a situation like this, so I hope we can show up with empathy, curiosity, and constructive dialogue together. 🫶 Thank you for always making me feel safe to speak up.In this ep, we talk about:→ what actually happened on the brand trip→ the video Megan posted and the moment she realized it was going sideways→ how the press reaches out when they already know the angle they want→ why this trip hit a nerve when other AI brand trips didn't→ why the women creators took the brunt of the backlash→ how brands and creators should actually give each other feedback→ where tech creators sit between Silicon Valley's echo chamber and everyone else→ Find Megan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meganlieuSubmit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsIf you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment! 🫶 It's free~𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎🌸 instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shihOD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.podtiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDrama✹ business inquiries: business@colorsofchloe.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
- Aug 24, 20261h 18m
The Art of Being Tastefully Unhinged | Sr Director of Brand Marketing @Duolingo, Kat Chan
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- Aug 10, 202655 min
My Honest Take on Motherhood vs Career (A Brutal Mid-year Reflection) | Office Drama
Half of 2026 is officially over... and I've never felt this behind in my career. 😅In today's episode of Office Drama, I'm doing my mid-year review out loud: what went wrong, what I'm scared of, and the 6 commitments I'm making so December-me doesn't have to go through the same existential disappointment.Today, we talk about:→ Why I felt so behind at the half-year mark of 2026→ The motherhood penalty: how does it impact your career? 👀→ A mutual creator who lost 10,000 followers overnight after announcing her pregnancy→ "Would you rather be pregnant or successful?" and why I don't want to choose!→ My 6 commitments I want us to try for the rest of 2026 Submit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsIf you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment!𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/OD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.pod/tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDrama✹ business inquiries:business@colorsofchloe.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Welcome to Office Drama (formerly JOMO) - a work-culture talk show about the inner drama behind career breakthroughs. I'm Chloe Shih, a former tech product manager turned 2M+ followers creator, and I sit with people obsessed with what they do, learn about the lessons they wish they knew earlier, and reveal the drama within. We also have a monthly(ish) advice segment, Coworker Confessions, for viewers to anonymously share their work tea or situations to get a second opinion.
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