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The Hale Institute at New Saint Andrews College is dedicated to the study and discussion of law in its substance, grounding, and effects on persons and community. The Institute carries out its mission both through course study within the college curriculum and in wider public discourse through publication and symposia. Timon Cline is the Director of Scholarly Initiatives at Hale Institute and host of the podcast. The Institute’s aims are informed by the Christian faith in the Reformed tradition and directed to the end of empowering persons to honor God and love neighbor through promoting the conditions and institutions of political liberty and civic virtue.
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Alex Priou, professor at the University of Austin (UATX), joins to talk about Plato, Machiavelli, Heidegger, Strauss, and everything in between.
Allen Mendenhall, research fellow for the Institute of Economic Policy Studies at the Heritage Foundation, comes on show to talk about his career as a lawyer, academic, and think tanker, the state of corporate and education reform, and the future of the conservative legal movement.
David Upham, professor of law at St. Thomas University College of Law and senior fellow of politics and law at the University of Dallas, talks to Timon about the 14th Amendment and the privileges and immunities of American citizenship. Taking American Citizenship Seriously https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/taking-american-citizenship-seriously-9781978761438/ Citizenship & the 14th Amendment with Prof. David Upham https://www.anchoringtruths.org/2026/06/18/citizenship-the-14th-amendment-with-prof-david-upham/
Jeremy Christiansen, professor of law at Regent University School of Law, returns to the show to talk about what the recent Trump v. Barbara decision means for citizenship and originalism. Trump v. Barbara: "A Rare Species of Victory?" Trump v. Barbara and the End of Originalism Hey Hey, Ho Ho, Afroyim Has Got to Go! Are Latter-day Saints Christians? - First Things
Carl Richard, professor at the University of Louisiana, Lafayette, comes on the show to talk about several of his books on how the American founders were influenced by both antiquity and scripture. The Founders and the Classics: Greece, Rome, and the American Enlightenment https://www.amazon.com/Founders-Classics-Greece-American-Enlightenment/dp/0674314263 The Founders and the Bible https://a.co/d/00iZB7PL So Help Us, God: American Presidents and the Bible https://a.co/d/0fD6gMls
With Trump v. Barbara before the Supreme Court, Ilan Wurman, professor of law at the University of Minnesota, joins the show to discuss his scholarship on the meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment citizenship clause. JURISDICTION AND CITIZENSHIP by Ilan Wurman https://journals.law.harvard.edu/jlpp/wp-content/uploads/sites/90/2026/02/49.Wurman.pdf Clearing Up Confusion on Birthright Citizenship by Ilan Wurman https://americanmind.org/salvo/clearing-up-confusion-on-birthright-citizenship/ BRIEF OF AMICUS CURIAE PROFESSOR ILAN WURMAN IN SUPPORT OF PETITIONERS https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/25/25-365/392842/20260127175852031_Trump%20v%20Barbara%20-%20Wurman%20Amicus%20Brief%20-%20FINAL.pdf The Constitution of 1789: A New Introduction by Ilan Wurman Amazon.com: The Constitution of 1789: A New Introduction: 9781009485692: Wurman, Ilan: Books
Scott Yenor, professor at Boise State and Director, B. Kenneth Simon Center for American Studies at the Heritage Foundation, talks to Timon about how conservatives can capture and reform legal education. The Long Game in the Legal Academy https://tomklingenstein.com/the-long-game-in-the-legal-academy/ Compulsory Feminism https://firstthings.com/compulsory-feminism/ Up from Conservatism https://www.encounterbooks.com/books/up-from-conservatism/
What is the future of legal conservatism? How should it reorient itself to present challenges? Jesse Merriam, professor at Patrick Henry College, joins the show to answer these questions (and more). Legal Conservatism for Our Time - The American Mind https://americanmind.org/features/legal-conservatism-for-our-time/ Shock Therapy for Our Lawless Legal System - The American Mind https://americanmind.org/features/legal-conservatism-for-our-time/shock-therapy-for-our-lawless-legal-system/
The Hale Institute at New Saint Andrews College is dedicated to the study and discussion of law in its substance, grounding, and effects on persons and community. The Institute carries out its mission both through course study within the college curriculum and in wider public discourse through publication and symposia. Timon Cline is the Director of Scholarly Initiatives at Hale Institute and host of the podcast. The Institute’s aims are informed by the Christian faith in the Reformed tradition and directed to the end of empowering persons to honor God and love neighbor through promoting the conditions and institutions of political liberty and civic virtue.
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